For the value of frame-inherited-parameters, I normally use (top left width height) so that new frames have the same geometry as (selected-frame).

Since switching to Emacs 25.1.1, this no longer works completely. Only some of the parameter values are copied to the new frame.

I run on MacOS Sierra. (Therefore my frame-creation-function is the one in term/ns-win.el.)

If I start with a frame like this:

(#<frame  *Minibuf-1* 0x101899c30> (top (+ -568)) (left 1920) (width 177) (height 98))

and press C-x 5 2 (make-frame-command), I end up with frames like this:

(#<frame  *Minibuf-1* 0x108366c38> (top 23) (left 0) (width 80) (height 95))
(#<frame *scratch* 0x101899c30> (top (+ -568)) (left 1920) (width 177) (height 98))

I tried switching the order of frame-inherited-parameters to (width height top left) and ended up with this:

(#<frame  *Minibuf-1* 0x108374618> (width 80) (height 98) (top (+ -568)) (left 1920))
(#<frame *scratch* 0x101899c30> (width 177) (height 98) (top (+ -568)) (left 1920))

All of this happens even though I started emacs with --no-init-file and loaded no libraries since starting it.

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    Since you have already verified that this happens with emacs -q, then go ahead and submit a bug report. MacOS Sierra is just too new. It may or may not be OS related. None of the emacs.stackexchange.com forum participants are going to suggest modifications of the C-source code, which is what might be needed to create a fix.
    – lawlist
    Oct 8, 2016 at 18:43
  • @lawlist I submitted a bug report with emacs -Q. I'm not sure if I should close this question or wait for a response and post it as an answer. Any guidance will be welcomed. Oct 8, 2016 at 19:31
  • In the past, I have updated my own questions with the link to the bug report and then posted an answer several weeks or months later when the bug is resolved. A few are years old and still have no resolution.
    – lawlist
    Oct 8, 2016 at 19:32
  • Out of curiosity, what do you actually use frame-inherited-parameters for? (I leave it nil.) Are you binding it during some execution? Or are you counting on it for default behavior (e.g., instead of customizing default-frame-alist).
    – Drew
    Oct 8, 2016 at 22:57
  • @drew I use it to make new frames I create with C-x 5 2 have the same size and position as the frame that was selected when I invoked the command. Oct 8, 2016 at 23:20

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This has been accepted as a bug in Emacs, but I don't have a lot of hope that someone is eager to fix it. (I looked at it, but didn't have enough background to figure out what was happening.) https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=24651

If you, like me, actually used this feature, you can get a similar result by advising (make-frame). I did it like this:

(defun my-make-frame-advice (fcn &rest args)  
  (let* ((frm (selected-frame))  
         (geom-parms (mapcar (lambda (parm)  
                               (cons (parm (frame-parameter frm parm)))  
                             '(left top height width)))
         (new-frm (apply fcn args)))  
    (modify-frame-parameters new-frm geom-parms)

(advice-add #'make-frame :around #'my-make-frame-advice)
  • Edited so that "around" advice returned the newly-created frame. Otherwise, it would break stuff that called make-frame and used its value. Nov 23, 2016 at 16:52

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